Two of the most influential voices on health policy and leadership, the pair reflect on what has gone right and wrong over the past three decades, and why history keeps repeating itself.

Mr Edwards has led the Nuffield Trust since 2014 and previously spent 11 years as policy director at the NHS Confederation. Mr Murray has led the King’s Fund since 2019, after five years as director of policy. He also spent time at NHS England and before that the Department of Health. 

They spoke to Annabelle Collins and Lawrence Dunhill.

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