NHS Alliance CEO Ciarán Devane, who took up the post two months ago, and University Hospital Tees Group CEO Stacey Hunter join HSJ deputy editor Dave West.

They discuss the challenges of growing racism against staff, including how it can mean that some minority ethnic staff don’t want to work in particular parts of the country.

And we talk about the dilemmas for the wave of chiefs leading multiple trusts, one of whom is Ms Hunter, as CEO of two Tees foundation trusts.

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