The long-awaited NHS workforce plan finally arrived last week, missing lots of the detail that managers and professional associations were crying out for. What was in it, what was not in it and a few surprises are covered in this week’s podcast.

Also, what are the prospects for the NHS’s crumbling estate? Correspondent Zoe Tidman takes us through the latest developments in the convoluted quest to see some refurbished hospitals this side of 2030.

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